Meeting Minutes
FIRE
MARSHAL’S ASSOCIATION OF UTAH
Mark Burton, President
Kerry Evans, 1st Vice President
Craig Humphreys 2nd Vice President
Dave Berg, Secretary
Date:
Thursday, March 10th, 2009
Time: 11:00 AM
Location: Murray Fire Prevention Office
PRESENT:
Scott W. Adams Park City Fire 801-940-2532 sadams@pcfd.org
Paul Bedont Price City Fire 435-636-3187 fire@priceutah.net
Dave Berg Park City Fire 435-940-2532 dberg@pcfd.org
Doug Bitton Layton 801-336-3940 dbitton@laytoncity.org
Ted Black WFD 801-782-3580 black@weberfiredistict..utah.gov
Steven Brande Pleasant Grove 801-796-9496 sbrande@pgcity.org
Mark Burton SFMO 801-284-6350 markburton@utah.gov
Monica Colby SFMO 801-284-6350 monicacolby@utah.gov
Dave Berg Park City Fire 435-940-2532 dberg@pcfd.org
Robert DeKorver Sandy City rdekorver@sandy.utah.gov
Kerry Evans Lehi 801-836-1015 keomega@aol.com
Brent Halladay SFMO 801-284-6350 bhallada@utah.gov
Todd Hohbein SFMO thohbein@utah.gov
Dean Hunt Layton City 801-336-3940 dhunt@laytoncity.org
Randy S. Koger Riverdale Fire 801-710-2627 rkoger@riverdale.state.ut.us
Deanne Mousley SFMO dmousley@utah.gov
Kevin Maughn Hyrum City 435-881-0562 kmaughn@hyrumcity.org
Robert Sandman Clinton City 801-614-0842 bsandman@clintoncity.com
Lynn Schofield Provo Fire & Rescue 801-852-6339 lschofield@provo.utah.gov
Scott Spencer Payson Fire 801-465-5252 scotts@paysen.org
Call to Order, and approval of minutes - Mark Burton
1. Minutes Approved
By Dean Hunt, seconded by Brent Halladay, and approved by the membership.
2. Introductions - Assembly
Introduction of the association members.
3. Financial Report - Dave Berg
Approved by Phil Roberts, seconded by Craig Humphreys, and approved by the
membership
Checking Account - $7,028.86
2/12/09 Ck#187
$4,828.00 ICC January Seminar – St. George
2/05/09 Ck#188 $ 14.21
Postage Returned Manuals and Report
2/24/09 Ck#189 $ 70.44
Janet Herron – Web Page Expenses
2/17/09 Ck#190 $ 30.00
Wriggles – Food for Training Alarm
Systems
2/28/09 Deposits $5,338.57
Savings, Primary -$6,324.88
2/28/09 Interest $3.88
Term Deposit -$10,970.67
2/28/09 Interest $24.02
4. Code Committee Report - Scott Adams
Scott Adams reported that the group had met and started the code review process. Their
next meeting is April 7th. They are meeting with the architectural and advisory committee
the
first Tuesday and Thursday of the month starting in April at DOPL
(Heber Wells Bldg). The Fire Marshal’s Code Group will meet at 08:30
prior to these meetings at 10:00.
Brent Halladay brought up an issue at the airport where the doors lock and cannot be
opened if there is a fire alarm. They are looking for an exception to the requirements of
the code.
There is a new ICC liaison, Dave Nichols, who has been with ICC since 2004.
5. Fire Prevention Board Report - Scott Spencer & Ted Black
The Fire Prevention Board met Tuesday, March 10, 2009. Excused from the
meeting were Bob Fazio, Dick Buehler, and Rick Bailey. The minutes from this meeting
will be available soon on the State Fire Marshals’ web site. The key points of the
meeting are as follows:
A report to the board was given by State Fire Marshal Ron Morris regarding the
2009 session of the Utah State Legislature and its effect on the fire service. Fire
Marshal Morris referred us to the Joint Council web site and the list of bills being
tracked by the fire service this year. He also indicated that the Fire Marshal’s
Office and UFRA have come through the budget process in good shape as they are
both funded from the restricted account and not from the general budget.
There was a discussion by the Fire Marshals regarding HB #394 which seems to
have been defeated. The Fire Marshal’s Office supported HB #211 as a better
alternative to HB #394. It was pointed out that there was parts of this bill that
were not what the Fire Marshal’s Office wanted, but to defeat HB #394 they did
not appose HB #211. HB#394 was a direct attack on the residential sprinkler
adoption in the IRC.
It was reported by Brent Halladay that we have to educate the public and even
some of the building officials on the benefits of fire sprinklers.
A presentation to the board was given by Chief Deputy Halladay proposing to
formally adopt the 2009 edition of NFPA 101 with amendments, Life Safety
Code. This will replace the currently adopted 2006 edition. A special deputy for
the Fire Marshal’s Office and inspector for the Health Department recommended
that we postpone adoption of the new code as it has requirements that would be
difficult for some existing rest and nursing homes. These requirements include:
Adding a second exit from uninhabitable floors use for storage and eliminating
pull stations from some alarm requirements. The board did not take any action
and asked the Fire Marshal’s Code Group to look at language changes to
these portions of NFPA 101 and make a recommendation in the May meeting.
A presentation was made to the board by Fire Marshal Ron Morris informing the
board on the current status of the (SERC) State Emergency Response
Commission. The SERC consists of a representative from the Department of
Public Safety and the representative from the Department of Environmental
Quality. Their purpose is to assist the local LEPCs. Recently, the SERC has not
Been functioning; however, there has been a commitment made by both
departments. To see that it functions from here on.
A presentation was made to the board by Casey Vorwaller, Orem Fire
Department, on the concern of the sale of novelty lighters in the State of Utah.
Casey gave an excellent presentation against the sale of novelty lighters and their
danger to children. The audience was asked to raise their hands if they agreed
with Casey’s presentation, and every hand went up. This issue has been sent for
an interim study by Representative Menlove and will be a bill for the next session.
There was a report made to the board by Chief Deputy Brent Halladay on any
input received from the fire service with regards to elevator key boxes in the State
of Utah and a final decision by the board on this issue. Chief Halladay reported
that he had not received any negative feedback and the general feeling was that
something needed to be done to resolve this problem. The board voted unanimously
to require all new elevators to have the 6049 key and require all existing elevators to
be changed over to the 6049 key by December 31, 2011. The board also directed the
State Fire Marshal to take the steps necessary to assume the control of the 6049
key as soon as possible.
A presentation was made to the board by Chief Deputy Brent Halladay to amend
the currently adopted fireworks administrative rule to allow fireworks that have
been approved and received the California “Safe and Sane” Registered Fireworks
seal and to not require testing in the State of Utah, as the requirements in California
are more restrictive than Utah. The Fire Prevention Board approved this action.
Mark Luthie, of Salt Lake City Fire Department, made a presentation to the board
suggesting that they require a license for those individuals conducting flame effects
before a proximate audience. As this was not an agenda item and was presented
under “New Business,” this will be an agenda item in the May meeting of the
Fire Prevention Board.
6. Training Timetable Mark Burton
April training is on LPG gas at the Fire and Rescue campus at 7:30 p.m. on the 29th. This
will be given by Ted Lemoff. This is a free Class, but if you sign up for it you need to be
there. They are going to be brining certificates and books.
A med gas glass is also being looked at. This is a 32-hour course and will take 4 days.
This will also be at no cost to the association, but you will need your own copy of NFPA
99c. There may be a testing fee for the class. They need 20 people for this class. This
would be the training for June.
We will make an attempt to obtain funds from DOPL this year, but there is a slow-down
in the economy that might make this difficult.
It was brought up that some of the members cannot attend training that requires overnight
stays. A possible site for training would be the Salt Lake Community College in the
Larry Miller Building.
7. Membership and Dues Kerry Evans
Current membership is at 48.
Kerry Evans said he has a letter he wants to send out to each fire chief in the state to see
if we can get some new membership.
8. Association Business Mark Burton
Mark asked for a response on how the web site looks and complimented Janet Herron on
the job she has done. He also said they would look at using the web site to track saves by
fire sprinklers in an effort to promote education of the public. He asked that we provide
this information. Kerry Evans suggested that along with the saves we should point out
those fires that occurred where sprinklers were not present and a death or considerable
loss was the result.
9. Parade Report (Steve Cox excused) Monica Colby
In May they are going to have a bi-annual meeting, and there is a way for guest delegates
to attend if those assigned delegates can’t. The meeting will be May 13th so if you are
interested, you should contact Steve Cox or Monica Colby. Most of the expenses will be
picked up.
April 14th they are having a conference in Colorado, and there is also a scholarship
available. Most of those costs will be picked up also.
10. Fire Safety Analysis for LP Gas Storage Facilities Brent Halladay
There will be a seminar on April 29th regarding the 2008 edition of NFPA 58 – L.P. Gas
Code. The instructor is Ted Lemoff the principal gases engineer for NFPA. When the
facility has containers over 4,000 gallons, a hazardous material plan is required. Brent
asked if the group if this would be of value to the various jurisdictions since there is a lot
of time put into this.
11. Educators Association Proposal Dean Hunt
A proposal was put before the group by Boyd Johnson and seconded by Dennis Barker
that the remaining funds from the USAF money be given to the Fire and Life Safety
education program in Utah. The Membership approved this proposal. This will remove
the previously-approved agreement to use the money for the repair of the State Fire
Marshal’s education trailers. I asked for a letter requesting funds be sent to the
association giving the name and address of where this balance ($5,110.96) should be sent.
12. Open Discussion Mark Burton
Mark Burton passed out a letter to the members from the Utah Chapter International
Code Council regarding S.B. 211 and H.B. 394 asking for our help in defeating both of
these legislations. The association membership made a motion to do nothing about this
letter. The motion was voted on and the group unanimously agreed. There was a feeling
that this issue had been resolved.
Dean Hunt informed the group of a class that is going on in Kaysville regarding NFPA
921. There will be no cost for the class, and there may not be a certification associated
with the class.
Scott Adams proposed that future meetings be held directly after the Fire Prevention
Board meeting in the same room. After a discussion it was decided that the meeting will
be held at the Murray Fire Prevention Office 30 minutes after the close of the Fire
Prevention Board. Snacks will be provided.
13. Adjournment. Mark Burton
Motion made by Ted Black and seconded by Brent Halladay.
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